Posts by man in black

by cutting off contact with the disfellowshipped or disassociated one, you are showing that you hate the attitudes and actions that led to that outcome.

however, you are also showing that you love the wrongdoer enough to do what is best for him or her.

man in black

I Da'ed myself.

And my life is much more interesting since I left.

But guess what, I didn't become a dope smoking/heroin shooting / satan worshipping / child abuser / murderer / type of guy.

I just moved on, learn more about other religions, and experienced more wholesome things in life than I ever would have if I had stayed a jw

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mormon experience

by man in black in

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man in black

Right after my wife and I left the jw religion about two years ago she went ahead and started to study with the mormons.

I thought that it would be something that would pass after awhile because of the similarities between the two religions,,,, boy was I wrong. She grabbed onto this new cult and just ran with it. She was baptized several months later.

I have been trying to show her the truth about her new beliefs, but I was just wasting my breath and time doing this. So, I have been trying to be accepting about her new friends, beliefs, and assignments.

I have attended special Christmas shows, gone to different locations such as carthage to be civil, and accepting to her.

Well, last night basically just wrecked it all for me.

She invited two of the "missionary boys" over for dinner, they have been here before and they seem pretty normal.

As we were finishing dinner, one of them asked for a copy of the book of mormon and started to spout off about how “inspiring, and truthful this book is. I was confused as to what he was doing.

My 22 year old son was with us and most of the conversation was directed at him. So I bit my tongue and just watched, I know his feelings about this religion (he thinks it is looney) and just watched.

After listening to the “inspired” presentation and my son’s spot on reply, (he is so civil, and respectful, I was just amazed at his composure) they turned to me and asked, “So MIB, what are your feelings about the bom, and Jesus Christ”?

The conversation then went basically like this :

Me: well I do not believe one word of your book.

Them: why not ? You know that is inspired by God and the prophets ?

Me: Well for one thing, history does not agree with it, and archeology cannot prove anything that is written in it .

Them: well you know many stories in the bom have been proven by history and archeology.

Me: Stories that have been "proven" by other mormons, not by any respectable historians or actual found artifacts.

Them: well, nothing from the Bible can be proven either. And besides Satan is doing his best to hide the truth of the bom from people today, so it sounds like he is being pretty successful.

Me: really? What in the world are you talking about.

Them: well, you have to actually READ the bom to understand what we are talking about. If you would do this you would understand what God really wants people to be doing today.In fact he actually will talk to you and help you come to a greater understand of his purpose using the bom.

Me: Let me state again, I repect your right to believe what you want, but I do not believe anything in your book,I read the Bible on my own time, I look at creation, I actually experience life outside of the bounds of a manmade religion and yes by doing these things God does talk to me, he has never mentioned to me that your religion is the only way.

Them: looking at their watches,,, well its getting late, we should be going.

After they left I was just furious at my wife, how the H#%$ can you sit there and allow these boys to spout off about how true their religion is?

We were jw’s for about 30 years, didn’t that time show you anything about how cults/religions work?

I left and took a walk for two hours while I calmed down.

Any suggestions on how to handle this? I feel like the “unbelieving mate” that was always brought up at witness meetings/conventions. There is no balanced way to deal with this. Either I am a “wicked person” to them, or (will never happen) I cave in and join this religion

Thanks for listening,

MIB (who has a massive, killer headache from dealing with this BS).

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Now why would the WT not ask former elders the 3rd question?

by wheelwithinwheel in

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in chapter 3 of ks-10, paragraph 13 (page 35), the wt corp provides the precise questions that are to be asked aspiring elders before announcing their appointment.

there are only 2 for qualifying brothers who have served previously.

brothers not having served before must be asked a 3rd.. .

man in black

I'm a little lost here.

Isn't holy spirit directing the men who strive for an elder appointment ????

And if the jw religion is true, , why would they have to ask AFTER a person appears to be capable for the position ?

legalistic terminology that further proves to me that this religion is a total snare and a racket.

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History Channel show about cults

by man in black in

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this will be shown next monday evening @ 8:00 pm on the history international channel in the usa :.

http://underdogcinema.com/culture/history-channel-cults-dangerous-devotion/.

http://www.historyinternational.com/.

man in black

This will be shown next Monday evening @ 8:00 pm on the History International channel in the USA :

http://underdogcinema.com/culture/history-channel-cults-dangerous-devotion/

http://www.historyinternational.com/

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Cardboard books for JW children

by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

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http://goo.gl/wvyj.

i purposely masked the site name and book name; don't want web searches taking the author here.

it's a new line of cardboard books for jw children.. i found a copy of this one... shall i post a pdf scan?.

man in black

OMG !

Go to extras / answering at meetings..........

The look on the boys face is so accurate regarding how some jw's look at their religion

Now extras / friends is more accurate. Speaking from 30 years expirience, I see the boy ( probably the son of a high ranking elder) on the right side with the two girls is no doubt fornicating with them, yet maintaining a stricktly rightous/pious attitude at the hall so that the elders keep buying his BS story about how spiritual he is.

Daddy has no idea what is going on,, or he does and is covering up for his kid so that his position can be protected from reality.

Now the two on the left are doing things according to wt policy. They are going to get married and she will get pregnant right away while they are both pioneering.

Suddenly he will be arrested as a pedophile, she will have a nervous breakdown, but will be encouraged to stay with him "waiting on jehovah to straighten things out".

So fast forward 5-10 years and everyone in this picture will be out of the religion and no doubt several will be on this site.

don't let these sugarcoated pictures make you believe that everything is as rosy as pictured !

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"out the mouth of babes " my six year olds opinion of shunning !

by looloo in

walking back from town today we saw two old ladys and i said "good morning" my child said " are those ladys the ones in that religion that come and talk to you about something but i dont know what ?

" i said they were not but she started to ask about grandma again(jw grandma that has not visited for 18 months , her disfellowshipped dads mother .

) it was quite difficult to answer some of her questions and i told her daddy and i dont want to be in the religion because they dont let you see your family who leave the religion (amongst other reasons !

man in black

great story, that sounds like one honest hearted child you have

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My experiences that have turned me away.....

by agent86 in

google_ad_section_start hi everyone, i am just new to this site and thanks for a very dear friend that has encouraged me to post my story and would love to hear feedback from all you out there xx.

this is my story.

we were introduced to the religion in 1982, not soon after we were unbaptized publishers (a bit to soon for me even at that age) i really didnt miss the celebrations as much as were werent that well off and my parents worked 6 days a week to pay the bills.

man in black

what a story, my jaw dropped several times while reading it.

congratulations on dealing with this situation and becoming a normal person !

Thank you for sharing

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witness friends

by man in black in

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i was cleaning out my basement this afternoon and while looking thru a box of old pictures/cards i ran across this letter.

from a once close jw associate :.

dear man in black,.

man in black

I was cleaning out my basement this afternoon and while looking thru a box of old pictures/cards I ran across this letter

from a once close jw associate :

Dear man in black,

I just wanted to thank you for all the help and encouragement you have given us through the many difficulties that my family has faced.

Is has been comforting to know that your help is just a quick phone call away. friends like you are truly a blessing, (proverbs 17:17).

Although life in this system of things is full of stress and anxiety, it is so wonderful to have the hope of peace and happiness that jehovah promises in the new world.

But, until then we will all need each others help understanding, and love to contend with the challenges of living a life of dedication and service to our wonderful god jehovah.

May he continue to bless you and your family and give you the faith and strenght to cope today and conquer tomorrow ! (psalm 21, 1-8).

Brother and sister two-face

This is the guy who really helped to push me over the edge when I decided to leave the jw religion.

You see, two years ago my Mom died (she was a witness, but my parents retired out of state several years ago). When she died

I was literally devastated for some time.

The congregation read the notice of her death,and posted the address of my Dad on the board.

So everybody knew what had happened.

This piece of work, and his self rightous wife did absolutley nothing, no call, card, or even a drop by while out in service.

So my reason for posting this little story is to let the people who are just snooping on the site to see that the witness veneer of

"brotherly love" is just something that they say to justify their self rightous attidude regarding having their entire lfe revolve around the wtbts organization.

OK,,,my rant is over, I'll go and finish cleaning now !